Frames

[domestic]

OK. Heres what I'd like to happen.

I have a nice fancy image across the top, then some items in left and right panes, and the main content in the middle. Unfortunatly, this is being a bit or a nuasance!

My problems are:

1-I can't get IE of Firefox to accept the frame sizes i give
2-I wanted to place a large image across the top of the page above all 3 lower frames. Unfortunatly, the frameset has also split the top row and now I can't get images to join up correctly.

My reasons for frames are that in the left and right bars are content that is updated almost daily, if not more. So I figured frames would make sense as I update the frames once, and they are updated everywhere on website. I've seen it done properly on other pages, but how....

If there is some other way I should do it (php, js, asp ) that would let me do this then please, let me know.

Thanks

Domestic

[John]

Frames are absolutely horrible, I hate them and stay away from them at all costs. The only type of frame that comes in handy once and a while is the iframe...

Anyway, I would recommend PHP - its fairly trivial to do what your looking for. Everything can be pretty much accomplished with a single function: require_once

Just "require" a a certain file [menu.php] on all your pages, and simply editing menu.php, all your pages will be updated. I think there is a basic tutorial on this in our PHP Tutorials Section.

[domestic]

cheers mate! Will look this up!

Thanks!

[Kaabi]

There's always a way around frames, you never need to use them. In some instances it may seem like they are the best way to go but they're ultimately bad for design and even SEO, or so I've read.

[domestic]

yeh. Have done the whole site in php. Been a learning experience and good fun! Plus, it works

[TcM]

Well they are not so good imo, you should use php you can include other php files instead of including other pages in frames, it's better!