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#1 JonElias

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 03:47 AM

i am thinking about sending an email to the education minister in Norway about making Programming a part of School, it is called e-democracy

does anyone have contributions and arguments?


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Posted 20 October 2014 - 04:15 AM

There are some high schools in the US that offer programming as an elective course. The biggest issue with it, in the US, at least, is that most people view programming as something that is "hard" and that they can't do. When I went to college, programming was a required course, but many of the students struggled with it.

 

I'd say it would make a good elective, but probably not a good required course.


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Posted 20 October 2014 - 07:00 AM

I'm not sure it's a viable option.  This is although most people have a computer in their house, not everyone does.  So, each school would need to set up some kind of computer lab for the students to do their lessons, etc.   If it can be done across the board, great!!!!  Unfortunately, that may not be the case.

 

In the US, our schools are increasingly cutting programs like art, music, and electives all the time.  It's sad, especially when you find that those electives actually help their cognitive skills.

 

I tell my kids all the time that their generation is a bunch of slackers.  But if you decide to be the best you can, you will have the world in your hands (actually I said "by the balls").  I have interviewed dozens of prospective employees that lack common communication skills.  So, if you work hard to set yourself above the rest, you can pretty much do whatever you want to do.

 

It's unfortunate that many of the kids are listening to the nonsense that they are being short-changed.  On some level that may be true, but to accept that you are a victim instead of doing everything you can to overcome this (supposed) obstacle, tells me a lot about your character, and your possible contribution to the company.


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Posted 20 October 2014 - 11:39 AM

I think computer science + the engineering principals behind computers should be more included in school.

 

but programming; not really.

 

Currently in the UK, the've made programming part of the curriculum. Which I think is a mistake.


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Posted 20 October 2014 - 11:56 AM


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Posted 20 October 2014 - 12:31 PM

ugh, the video is cringe worthy, The message is learn to code, but actually most of the points are NOT to-do with programming, but instead have confused computer programming with computer science...again... 

 

I dis-agree with the quote at the start. I also don't rate most of the people speaking in that video...

 

basically I'm just a grumpy man!


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Posted 21 October 2014 - 09:26 AM

Well, I think it NEEDS to be part of the education, but as an optional subject.

You can't force everyone to learn something most of them won't ever use.


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Posted 21 October 2014 - 09:38 AM

I agree
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Posted 21 October 2014 - 11:06 AM

the opportunity should be there... agreed. 


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