I downloaded the advanced Minecraft Error Test and ran it. Thank you so much Fried Zombie, whoever you are! Without this I would still be trying to find the problem. I strongly suspected Java but this confirmed it.
Even though I had installed 64 bit Java and not 32 bit, it was showing that Minecraft was running 32 bit and was recommending I switch to the recommended 64 bit.
After several attempts at removing and reinstalling Java, only to find the result to be the same (yes I had made sure no files were left behind.) I decided to try using a 64 bit Internet Explorer to retrieve the Java files. Believe it or not, this worked. For some reason, using Chrome was causing it to keep installing and running as 32 bit, even though I was manually installing the 64 bit version, and no browsers were open.
After that was done, I added the path in environment variables.
I ran the Advanced Minecraft Error Tests again… running 32 bit Java. Ugh!
I checked programs in the control panel and only 64 bit was installed. Something kept changing it though). I went into the System 32 folder and there was the Java folder, back again. I deleted it.
I restarted the computer and ran the Advanced Minecraft Error Test again. It could not find Java at all. It turned out I typo’d the path in environment variables. After fixing that, I deleted the META-INF folder in the Minecraft jar file (why… who knows, I’m tired, lol. Yes I realize it was unnecessary), and ran a force update.
Minecraft FIXED! I ran into a field of Zombies, squished a giant spider, and used tnt to blow a hole in the ground. Ryan will be fixing his world later… oops. I try to fix the games, no one said I could play them, lol.
I tried Steam again, specifically NS2. I tried but no change. It was still crashing. It was getting further than before though. I actually got to run around for a few minutes before running into a room with too many animations and crashing. I have no idea how to play it and need a big Noob sign in game. I was running into everything.
I updated the bios again and restarted. I went into the Natural Selections 2 folder again and set it to run as administrator. This actually seemed like it was going to work. Nope. So I set Steam to run as administrator (I know.. compatibility mode is a no no for Steam… It told me); however, prior to telling me I should change it back, it updated the Steam Client Bootstrapper. It had never done that before.
I went back and unchecked run as administrator and restarted Steam by right clicking and choosing run as administrator. This time it asked if I wanted to allow it to make changes - another thing it never did before. I clicked to allow and it started up smoothly, even somewhat faster than it had been before. When I started NS2 it updated the shaders ( another first) and loaded perfectly and fairly quickly. I gave the seat back to Ryan (because as I said above… I can’t play the game) and he was having a blast. I told him to play hard to see if it would crash. 30 minutes later… no crashing. Now he is playing something else.
I think it is fixed! But I am not celebrating just yet. Some of you may be laughing because it was a simple thing to catch, but it took me close to a year because there were too many other little things happening with it that made the diagnosis harder (like that high pitch whine). I am so relieved.
What did I learn from this… To really appreciate those of you crazy enough to do this for a living!
lespauled.. That was done early on and no change.Go to the full post