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Im pretty sure this is the right section, I couldn't find one that would fit better. Its simply feedback of my experience using Glype, and dealing with Baron Munchausen

So im sure anyone here that uses a web proxy, knows what Glype is. its just a simple web based proxy script, revolving around complex curl calls and parsing through the page to return it to the viewer.

Even though the script is the best web based proxy script out there, that doesn't say much at all.. Its very insecure and unstable. It has memory leaks galore, and its about as unstable as it gets for a web proxy.

However, I took the time to seek out the flaws and memory leaks, I spent countless hours perfecting the script. My changes are as below.

1) Cut out the memory leaks

2) Fixed the javascript parsing (most sites revolving around JS, like twitter, wouldnt work, because it wouldnt parse the JS, hence your browser was actually trying to pull the JS scripts straight from twitter, so if you were blocked, it wouldnt work. Tested by modifying my hosts file to block js based websites)

3) The css for the form on the proxified pages would interfere with the CSS on the proxified page, I was able to put the form on a primary page, and the proxified content in a iframe/div that was 100% the remainder of the page, hence, no interference.

4) I add some other cool features, such as the page load time, and the location of the proxified web page. This was a bit more complex, as it had to get he information from a webpage within the iframe.

5) If you created an account, you were able to add favorites and view history, as well as custom browser settings, these would be re-applied every time you logged in from anywhere. this was discontinued though, as a proxy is for privacy, not many ppl signed up

6) I was able to append a signature to select fields, much like if you were to post an update on facebook, or download a vbulletin mobile app and post on websites, it would append "posted via ___ mobile", this would append "posted via *my proxy*"


Me being the nice guy I am, I messaged him, I said he can have all the code, and instructions on how to use it, if I get a month of free advertising (75 bucks worth). The lazy kid hasn't updated his script in YEARS, some php functions are disabled in the next php release. I figured that would be cool, win win, he gets a better proxy script, I get some free advertising. He has to do NOTHING..

Whats he do? He denies my offer, and "demands" that I give my script to him, as its a modified version of the script he purchased from another party. Thats right, he never even coded this, he purchased the rights to the script. its a free, un-encrypted script.

It seems like I showed him an example of my script, and how it works, and he realized that he doesnt know how to code any of that as well as I did, or make the proxy as fast and secure as how I did, and just straight up thought he could pass the work off as his own.

He started to bring up all these BS allegations, like 2 years ago I used the phrase "Proxify everything" on a proxy, I got a warning that that was a copyrighted phrase, and removed it, he brought that up again like he could pull that into some legal matter.

To conclude this, I removed the modified version of glype, and implemented a modified version of phproxy, it just ironically looks and acts the exact same. Here is his reply.

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After careful consideration of your responses in this matter, the decision has been made to terminate with immediate effect (a) your limited license to use the Glype Software and access to the Glype website; (b) your four Proxy accounts and access to the Proxy website; © your FreeProxy account and access to the FreeProxy,ca website; (d) your Proxies,us account and access to the Proxies,us website; and (e) access to all other products and services now or hereafter provided by UpsideOut, Inc. Pursuant to the Glype Software License Agreement, you must immediately cease and desist from any and all use of the Glype Software and destroy all copies, full or partial, of the Glype Software that may be in your possession or under your control. Pursuant to the Proxy Terms of Use Agreement, you must cease and desist from any and all use of the Proxy,org website. We do not withdraw or waive any of the damages, rights or remedies which may be available by reason of your conduct to date, and all such rights and remedies are expressly reserved.

So what do you think? To sum this up, he is lazy and hasn't fixed or recoded his broken proxy in like 3 years, I fix it and make it perfect, and offer to share it with him for some advertising spots, he said no and demanded I give him MY script that I changed. Its technially got more code from me than was originally there in the first place. Is he being a total douche, or is that just how I see it?

P.S. the quote actually has some links, I was obligated to modify or remove due to the forums posting rules.
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IANAL. He has no obligatory reason to update his script, and has every right to reject anything he wishes. His license states i.e., "A license purchase only grants you permission to remove the copyright link." so violating his license, then telling him you had already violated and modified it (i.e. not a proposition to improve, which could be less impolite), is underhanded and I would not like to see that done to myself personally.

(PS, I had moved to Lounge where it better fits.)
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Im not sure you understand..

I never removed his copyright link. I took what he was providing for free, unencrypted, made it work better, upgraded it, made it the best version of his script, offered to give it to him for some advertising spots, and he "demanded" that I give it to him, with nothing in return. he planned on releasing it as a new version, and giving no credit out. In his mind, any changes I made... were his.
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You purchased the application in so that you can remove the copyright link, does the license state you can modify the copyrighted software? You are doing so, telling him this, and even reselling it to him. That is nonsense and he has the right to incorporate the changes (moral or not), you do not.
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I didnt remove the copyright, l2read
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If you want proof yourself, look at the bottom if the website's page, " Glype website and proxy script © 2006-2011 Glype.com."

So your "improving" of the script violates his released work, why do you think it is right to sell the violated owner his copyrighted work? Do you own copyright or own a license to modify this?
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(e) You may not and you agree not to, or to enable others to, create derivative works of the Software or related Services.
I think you are violating their license agreement.

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phpforfun said:

Im not sure you understand..

I never removed his copyright link. I took what he was providing for free, unencrypted, made it work better, upgraded it, made it the best version of his proxy sites script, offered to give it to him for some advertising spots, and he "demanded" that I give it to him, with nothing in return. he planned on releasing it as a new version, and giving no credit out. In his mind, any changes I made... were his.

Man can you PM me script I would like to use it on my proxy sites :)
Btw Baron is a douche i hate him

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nope, I destroyed it.. remember ;-)
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I know the feeling - I developed a few plugins for Glype which improved the functionality for sites I use regularly and the Baron IP banned me!

In return for this, I went ahead and developed a free, open source alternative to his "BlockScript" which he charges an extortionate amount for something so-so-simple.

badblock - Block Unwanted Site Access - Google Project Hosting

I haven't updated it in a while but it's not hard to get it working and it has all the functionality of blockscript for none of the cost - all code written by me of course - none whatsoever from BlockScript.

Anyway, if you know anyone who is even remotely thinking about BlockScript, point them to BadBlock and save them putting any money in the Baron's pockets!

Point in case - although proxy.org may be highest ranked in google, it's run by a fool who can't code for peanuts and bans people from his site if they show the least bit of technical prowess (developing plugins/improving glype/eating a taco/etc)

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What you should do, is decrypt his blockscript, then use his methods, he has a repository of proxys that he can use as an option to block. THe script is obfuscated before its encrypted though, so its a little tough, but not impossible..
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