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[jwxie518]

What do you think of this website?

I do think some transparency is good. But hey, this is going too far!? First of all, how did these information get leaked out? Isn't this a crime?

Now, do you think we can save the world and stop the war once we release them?

This guy is really crazy, despite he is an intelligent human being. He only thinks about freedom of publish and human rights.

All governments hide their secrets for at least 30-50 years, and then release them gradually. This is BS.

We should get someone to arrest him, and destroy those information, forever!
These leaked information include good people there who helped the US troops (i.e. spy !!)

[Alexander]

Read: Freedom of information act and the government's widely known non-compliance, and non-disclosure of things we should be allowed as citizens to know. I support this site.

[jwxie518]

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Read: Freedom of information act and the government's widely known non-compliance, and non-disclosure of things we should be allowed as citizens to know. I support this site.

Why should military information be disposable?

[Alexander]

Are you aware of the level of controversy citizens have against the States' actions in the middle east?

Besides: Category:Military or intelligence (ruling) - WikiLeaks , It's just information. Nothing more (With a grain of salt)

[opwuaioc]

Information isn't just information. Some of it is worth money, some of it is worth lives.

[jwxie518]

I am just going to use one of the top one here:
Afghanistan Paramilitary Terrorist Insurgent Groups, 1 Mar 2009 - WikiLeaks

How is this information going to help us improve the country? I am talking about information is non-disclosure, especially those from defense units. What if the US intelligence is tracking down one of these guys, and mission is about to complete (maybe it was another terrorist attack!!!), and since it is disposed, these links are meaningless. Some of these targets would get kill.

How do you justify what is useful?
Note that even within your own family people do trade off. Some of these trade off are ugly, but if they help to relieve the situation, by all means do it. Nobody is perfect, and this is a human society. As a pious Catholic I hate wars but none of us is Jesus. We don't save people through this way.

If I were a terrorist, I would study these information so seriously, and track down every little detail, and may prevent me being followed.

[yamman13]

jwxie518 said:

Why should military information be disposable?

The killing of innocent journalists in Iraq was something the public needed to know, and it didn't compromise any american lives.

[opwuaioc]

yamman13 said:

The killing of innocent journalists in Iraq was something the public needed to know, and it didn't compromise any american lives.

Yes, but there is a difference between blowing the whistle on problematic events (I refrain from commenting more on that story, but when you watch the entire video along with the commentary of a journalist actually there, the story isn't quite the same as what the public was fed), and publishing intel on informants. This is no different than when Cheney outed that Valerie Plume several years ago.

It is imperative that we foster an environment of honesty, but some information must be a well-guarded secret...

[jwxie518]

yamman13 said:

The killing of innocent journalists in Iraq was something the public needed to know, and it didn't compromise any american lives.

Killing innocent people should be revealed. I don't think anyone would object that. However, I am dare to say that at least 40% of these information are not scandals that public should be acknowledge. In other words, many of these information are actually intelligence and military information.

Yes, you can argue that since it has been leaked, whoever receive may entitle to release it. However, for the sake of security, no one should do it. Imagine this guy is an American citizen. Since he's an Australian, I dare to say that he can do whatever he wants until the prime minister finally acquiesces to the White House's complain, and arrest him (if she dares to take this political risk).

In my previous post, "Afghanistan Paramilitary Terrorist Insurgent Groups, 1 Mar 2009 - WikiLeaks" this has nothing to do with us ethically.

Julian Assange is making money, and I count him as an extremist.

[opwuaioc]

Wait, making money? As far as I know, Wikileaks brings in no money to him personally, so much does it struggle to remain open...

[lor]

Personally I think they've gone wayyy too overboard, I think that Wikileaks can be used for dangerous things with the information that they've given away. I understand that it's freedom of speech but is that really worth the possible cost of more lives at risk?... Some of the information on there is where their bases are set up.

[jwxie518]

opwuaioc said:

Wait, making money? As far as I know, Wikileaks brings in no money to him personally, so much does it struggle to remain open...

Just my personal speculation. He has been actively going around the globe and on interviews. He could also write his own biography book in the future.