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I am wondering if i should learn how to program with python or a different programming language like java. I am wondering if you can make a program in python that has a interface and all the other things that will allow you to make a actual program. With python do you have to use a thing like command prompt or can you actual make a legit program.
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 10:02 AM
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well first of there is a page that can be very helpful in these situacions you probably didnt hear of it its called google here is a link
second you cant compare java and python two very different .... lets youst say things...two very different things
and third yes python can make a "real" programs with GUI (grafical user interface)
try that web page a gave link to with the sentenc "programming GUI in python"
and by my opnion its much easier to learn python and to use it then java
java is totally misused but that is another subject
EDIT: i apologize for my bad grammer and sintaks
second you cant compare java and python two very different .... lets youst say things...two very different things
and third yes python can make a "real" programs with GUI (grafical user interface)
try that web page a gave link to with the sentenc "programming GUI in python"
and by my opnion its much easier to learn python and to use it then java
java is totally misused but that is another subject
EDIT: i apologize for my bad grammer and sintaks
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 06:30 PM
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Python can easily use the GTK GUI framework (PyGTK I think it's called) to use a graphical interface, many projects use them. Python is similar to Java because they both are compiled into bytecode (when python is not interpreted anyway), and actually Python code can be converted into Java. Anyway..
Depends where you are, if you're a beginner in programming Java is most likely not your best choice, Python is more simple and a higher up language, and its ability to be compiled will be a plus if you're just starting out.
Depends where you are, if you're a beginner in programming Java is most likely not your best choice, Python is more simple and a higher up language, and its ability to be compiled will be a plus if you're just starting out.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:39 AM
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well first of there is a page that can be very helpful in these situacions you probably didnt hear of it its called google here is a link.
Really, thanks for that help. all i am going to say is that you are a ***, and i seriously suggest that you get educated also, at least it helps. And i know about google, probably more than you do due to the fact that my uncle works for them as a software engineer. but thanks for the info champ.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 06:13 PM
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k4m1k4z1 said:
Really, thanks for that help. all i am going to say is that you are a ***, and i seriously suggest that you get educated also, at least it helps. And i know about google, probably more than you do due to the fact that my uncle works for them as a software engineer. but thanks for the info champ.
There are always going to be situations where someone may say something as blunt as that, just don't take it to heart. Do you got any more questions about Python?
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 09:25 PM
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Depends on what you want to do.
Read the pros and cons, and decide for yourself.
Java is more widely used and installed, but python is easier to write, and a higher level language.
Python is a good starter language.
Read the pros and cons, and decide for yourself.
Java is more widely used and installed, but python is easier to write, and a higher level language.
Python is a good starter language.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 04:25 AM
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k4m1k4z1 said:
Really, thanks for that help. all i am going to say is that you are a ***, and i seriously suggest that you get educated also, at least it helps. And i know about google, probably more than you do due to the fact that my uncle works for them as a software engineer. but thanks for the info champ.
and yet you do not even try to use!
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interface in python
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and i have no one in google !
and of course on this very forum we have Java vs Python for a beginner?
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 07:19 PM
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ferovac said:
and yet you do not even try to use![...]
You can show some courtesy and atleast find some notable articles you found using Google search, these forums are for help not triage for search engines.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:36 PM
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i apologize for being a ***, but come on some one opens a thread on a forum expecting help and all i did is paste the title in google and got the same thread right here on this forum, that could only mean that one didnt made not even a slight effort of trying to find out some kind of a answer
and 99% of the people who ask those type of questions dont learn anything ... "what would be quicker", "what would be easier", "what would be more 'efficient' ".........
it doesnt matter which language you learn, if you are a beginner , as long as you learn one, at the end they all are converted into some form of assembly,they all get executed by the same processor, so they ALL work on the same principal
some have more build in functions, some are better for something and not so good for something else
my first language was "logo" back when all computers were running DOS, second was "turbo pascal", and then came "C"
which means that i now know two languages most people on this forum didnt even hear about .... dead languages, but even logo worked on the same principal as C, java, python.......the only difference was that there was a turtle involved :D
and 99% of the people who ask those type of questions dont learn anything ... "what would be quicker", "what would be easier", "what would be more 'efficient' ".........
it doesnt matter which language you learn, if you are a beginner , as long as you learn one, at the end they all are converted into some form of assembly,they all get executed by the same processor, so they ALL work on the same principal
some have more build in functions, some are better for something and not so good for something else
my first language was "logo" back when all computers were running DOS, second was "turbo pascal", and then came "C"
which means that i now know two languages most people on this forum didnt even hear about .... dead languages, but even logo worked on the same principal as C, java, python.......the only difference was that there was a turtle involved :D
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 03:46 AM
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Logo is an interpreted scripting language, not a programming language, so it does not compile. Turbo Pascal is not a programming language, it is an IDE. I don't think your argument about them being like C was correct.. Far from.
And as for telling people to look on Google, what do you find on Google? Posts on forums. What if no one on other forums posted? You'd be screwed! ;) So you may as well help, you aren't required to write code for them, just help them out in one way or another, atleast link them to somewhere more suited if it has already been sourced somewhere else.
And as for telling people to look on Google, what do you find on Google? Posts on forums. What if no one on other forums posted? You'd be screwed! ;) So you may as well help, you aren't required to write code for them, just help them out in one way or another, atleast link them to somewhere more suited if it has already been sourced somewhere else.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:55 AM
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so you dont press compile before running logo and yes i expressed my self wrong i didnt learn turbo pascal, i learned pascal using turbo pascal, im terribly sorry,
the point im trying to make is that they all have variables they all have loops, conditions statments, functions ....... for a beginner who is just starting to learn programming is all he needs to know , once he understands the concept behind programming, learning a new language is a matter of days
i spent 3 years playing around with logo in elementary school , another 2 with pascal, and then in high school it took me two weeks to learn C
so just start with something the more simpler the better, java and python for that matter are fare from it
and since this is turning into a endless discussion , im abandoning it
the point im trying to make is that they all have variables they all have loops, conditions statments, functions ....... for a beginner who is just starting to learn programming is all he needs to know , once he understands the concept behind programming, learning a new language is a matter of days
i spent 3 years playing around with logo in elementary school , another 2 with pascal, and then in high school it took me two weeks to learn C
so just start with something the more simpler the better, java and python for that matter are fare from it
and since this is turning into a endless discussion , im abandoning it
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 12:04 PM
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ferovac said:
well first of there is a page that can be very helpful in these situacions you probably didnt hear of it its called google here is a link
second you cant compare java and python two very different .... lets youst say things...two very different things
and third yes python can make a "real" programs with GUI (grafical user interface)
try that web page a gave link to with the sentenc "programming GUI in python"
and by my opnion its much easier to learn python and to use it then java
java is totally misused but that is another subject
EDIT: i apologize for my bad grammer and sintaks
second you cant compare java and python two very different .... lets youst say things...two very different things
and third yes python can make a "real" programs with GUI (grafical user interface)
try that web page a gave link to with the sentenc "programming GUI in python"
and by my opnion its much easier to learn python and to use it then java
java is totally misused but that is another subject
EDIT: i apologize for my bad grammer and sintaks
Dude, your English is pretty well. You shouldn't apologize.
@k4m1k4z1,
To be honest, console programs are also "real" programs. Python is easy but powerful (as far as I know). I want to quote something.
"Python has been an important part of Google since the beginning, and remains so as the system grows and evolves. Today dozens of Google engineers use Python, and we're looking for more people with skills in this language." said Peter Norvig, director of search quality at Google, Inc.
I can't really compare it to Java, but do you think I need to tell anything except this quote?
