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[Slamster]

I am wanting to know would it be simple for a novice user to use java or would you have to specficially trained to use the programming language

[WingedPanther]

It depends entirely on how much natural talent you have, and what you want to do with it. There are a number of colleges that teach Java as their first programming language.

[QuackWare]

Java can be a very simple programming language if you just learn the basics and do not stray into more detailed areas. However you can build some very complex applications, applets, and even games if you fully understand the programming language.

[GMVResources]

Java I think is a simple programming language mainly used for games and applets, and I personally had it as my first.

[Chris Weimer]

GMVResources said:

Java I think is a simple programming language mainly used for games and applets, and I personally had it as my first.

It can be used for games and applets, but that's really belittling the language.

[Chris Weimer]

Slamster said:

I am wanting to know would it be simple for a novice user to use java or would you have to specficially trained to use the programming language

Java was my first language in college (although I had already looked into other languages before and coded a bit with C, C++, Win32 (esp. helped by Winprog.org), and PHP. After one semester of Java in college, the basics were mastered, and I was making neat things with Swing and Awk.

[357mag]

I'm learning Java now. My first exposure to programming was Visual Basic and then I did some C++. I really like the C++ language but it's not suited for making GUI programs. Even Microsoft acknowledges that Visual C++ is no longer used by most developers to make GUI programs. But Java is so much like C++ as far as syntax goes that I feel comfortable with it. I'm just writing console programs now but later on I'll get into some graphical programs with Java and C#, which is another good language to learn.

[GMVResources]

true, chris weimer

[Davide]

357mag said:

I'm learning Java now. My first exposure to programming was Visual Basic and then I did some C++. I really like the C++ language but it's not suited for making GUI programs. Even Microsoft acknowledges that Visual C++ is no longer used by most developers to make GUI programs. But Java is so much like C++ as far as syntax goes that I feel comfortable with it. I'm just writing console programs now but later on I'll get into some graphical programs with Java and C#, which is another good language to learn.

Well, C++ can be used with MFC or WIn32 API to create GUI programs if you want to get proffessional, but the easiest method is to use either C# with .NET or Java, or C++ with Qt. Note that Java is identical to C#.

[Khaotic]

WingedPanther said:

It depends entirely on how much natural talent you have, and what you want to do with it. There are a number of colleges that teach Java as their first programming language.

I agree, I remember I tried to learn Java as my first language and fail misserably. I could not understand the syntax. Then I got involved in C and then later tried Java and caught on immediately.

[abzero]

Khaotic said:

I agree, I remember I tried to learn Java as my first language and fail misserably. I could not understand the syntax. Then I got involved in C and then later tried Java and caught on immediately.

Ah well the syntax of java is very verbose and a little unessary some time. So that can be a stumbling block. As with any language a book with lots of examples and code sources is good.

[Khaotic]

Yeah I agree, and the API really helps. If you know how to navigate the API well, 7/10 the time you won't need someone's help.