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No cursing, ****, this is gonna be hard. oops. Why is .NET so popular in the workforce? Why are businesses hiring people left and right that know .NET languages?

[cdg10620]

There are a lot of people jumping on the WISIWIG band wagon and it's really easy to do that in .NET with Visual Studio. The problem with WISIWIG is that if you never really have to dig into the code and something breaks, you really don't know how to fix it.

I program mainly in .NET at work but I hardly ever use WISIWIG. I do all of my development hand and I don't drag and drop my objects from the toolbar.

[WingedPanther]

MicroSoft has a great marketing department, which does a great job of getting .NET into colleges.

[ZekeDragon]

I honestly think that's a really good question...

[outsid3r]

I think that microsoft is planning something big with .NET, i mean, they are already researching a new OS named singularity which stands above .NET platform, which make the OS much more safer unlike windows, and like you said, many industries are hiring many .NET programmers, in my country (Portugal) i can see that happening, most of programming job announcements are asking for people that program in .NET. Windows is a failure from the beginning, and it can never be changed now, Unix-like systems are each time gaining more users and freeware open-source software is really beating most of closed-source commercial software, i think that it's inevitable that microsoft is slowly going down. and they want to counter that with something fresh and new.

[chili5]

Well I guess that .NET is popular because it allows companies to get programs working really quick. I mean you can do a lot of things really quickly with it.

Although Winged got it when he says that Microsoft markets things well. In 2002, Microsoft went to the university of waterloo with 2.5 billion dollars over 5 years for them to use the C# programming language. Source: University of Waterloo Embroiled in Microsoft Controversy

When you go to big universities like this to get them to use a language, more people are going to have experience with the .net framework thus companies should be able to easily find people that can do something for them (in C#).

[outsid3r]

I must say that is really very sad what Microsoft is doing, with money they even change the official program of a school, that's truly ridiculous, and another fact is that .NET languages are just to high-level to a university, so the students will just learn less. Thanks for that information, i like to know this kind of things.

[docesam]

micro$oft is evil , it should be fought against. we should refuse .NET

[ZekeDragon]

Microsoft is certainly greedy, sure of itself, and doesn't like competition, but I don't know if I'd call MS "evil". See, they aren't known for torturing children and eating infants, nor are there many death cults associated with Microsoft, so I can't see the evil thing really flying.

Are you saying that every MS employee is cackling with evil laughter as everyone tries to survive in the dredges of their proprietary trash heap of an OS? I mean... I agree, we should look toward open standards for making software, since who knows when MS decides to say "Ehh screw it" and stop supporting .NET, and the fact that it's really Windows centric, but somehow that doesn't really make me think "Evil Masterminds" here. :P

[outsid3r]

I like .NET, i mean, is much better that programming with the windows crazy dysfunctional and counter-intuitive native API, of course that it does not change the **** that windows is, but it's a pretty good mask, microsoft is getting better and they know their mistakes, that's why they are betting on this, .NET is the new windows programming API.

[ZekeDragon]

I don't have any personal problems with .NET. I guess I've never had to deal with the native Windows API, so I don't get the gist, the worst API for GUI programming I've seen is... wxWidgets I'd say. Not even saying it's bad, just I'm so used to seeing better ones (Qt, Swing, ANY RAD, etc.). Due to this, I've only heard horror stories about the Windows MFC. :P

Why don't you get a nice GUI toolkit? :)

[outsid3r]

GUI toolkit?!

Windows API is an interface that interacts with the all system, file systems, networking, multimedia, graphics and many system services, that's not what are you thinking. Every OS must have an API, otherwise would not be possible for user to make a program that create a file, or a directory for example. Doing this in windows is really crappy.