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[Dalbiez]

Hello

I'm new here so I though maybe it's nice to introduce myself. I'm Dalbiez, I'm coming from Holland and I'm 14 years old. Since last weeks I'm having a problem, I can't choose the right language. I want to create web applications. PHP is the most populair language for the web but Ruby has a nice syntax.

Ruby

• Nice syntax.
  
• Friendly community.
  
• Nice web frameworks like Ramaze.

Of course Ruby has some cons:

Ruby

• Expensive hosting for a 14 year old teenager.
  
• Less populair than PHP.

Then PHP comes:

PHP

• Really popular!
  
• Lot of code is available.
  
• A huge community
  
• Has nice web frame works.
  
• Cheap hosting.
  
• I already know some PHP.

And the cons:

PHP

• The syntax is sloppy.

At the moment I'm more fan of Ruby, I really like it. Everytime I write PHP code I think "I need to write this in Ruby". But I want to be a web-developer when I'm older and PHP is more populair so when I'm looking to my future it's better to learn PHP.

Thanks,
Dalbiez and sorry for my bad English!

[chili5]

You think Ruby has a nice syntax?

Like Jordan I haven't used Ruby enough to compare them. The one thing that turns me off from PHP is a lot of very redundant functions. I wouldn't say popularity is a con though.

[TkTech]

One of the major reasons people turn down Ruby is the syntax. If you take the time to get used too it, its just like any other of the dozens of languages you might have dabbled in. One thing I do like is Ruby On Rails, which is a WIN framework using the MVC architectural pattern. Its RAD for the web.

[mikelbring]

Yeah if your gonna use ruby, use ruby on rails framework. Its quickly becoming super popular, but im a php developer my self.

[Dalbiez]

Well, I don't like {, }, ; and such. But when I'm looking to my furute maybe PHP is better, right?

[WingedPanther]

Measuring "better" is highly subjective. My boss likes Delphi, I prefer C++. Our definitions of "better" are the reason why we gravitate to different languages. I suspect the same is true of Ruby vs PHP.

[Momotaro]

Choose whichever one you're more comfortable with. It'll be much easier for you that way.

[John]

I think Ruby's syntax is ugly.

[Aereshaa]

Actually, ruby's line-endings are exactly the same as in shell scripts, or Perl.

x = 1 #complete

x = 1 + #incomplete, go to next line

1 #complete

x = 1;y = 2 #two complete statements on one line

Essentially, it reads tokens until it reaches a semicolon or end-of-line, and then checks whether it has a complete statement. You can of course put semicolons at the end of every statement if you want to, it's just not necessary. Is there anything else you object to, Jordan?
EDIT: For those who don't know ruby, I've attached a simple program I wrote in it.

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