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I was just thinking about what i should do lol so now im making a post on it just incase anyone has good ideas :)

This is a great forum btw ;)

I got a great project i want to do for fun but i dont know what im doing lol so i need to go back to the start line i think .
Id like to make programs but i dont even know what the best language to learn first or to make the programs with ??
It use to be VB6 i think but im sure its all .Net and c++ ???
its llike my project is a chat server with rooms ,voice and cam like yahoo ,i was going to make it all in java like the old style yahoo was but im thinking now its going to be faster and easyer to make a chat client with VB or somthing and connect it to a server . well thats what im thinking now ,looking at java looks abit hard lol
I got these cool Training videos by CompTia and VTC and they are great but i dont know what to focus on first coz thhere is so much to do and learn ..
I do need some new videos i think my ones are old now .i normal get mine of torrent if you know what i mean lol :)
My aim is to be able to make software and im guessing its going to be a wile till i can lol


Any input is always wanted by others i havent had the chance to search the hole of this forum yet so i might be missing somthing really cool so let me know if i am lol or any other tips for my little issues :)

Many thanks for ya time :)

[ReignInChaos]

It depends on the approach you would like to take, whether your looking to have fun or really learn the concepts of programming. Taking a few lecture classes would be worthwhile but if you are simply looking to have some fun, I would recommend just about any book by Deitel and Deitel. Many of their newer editions include common software tips and tricks along with things to avoid. As far as a starting language, Java is very good to start with because of the easy to use API and built in functionality. Also, almost every IDE comes with tutorials to get started.

My best advice is don't get sucked without learning concepts first, otherwise it may come back and bite you later on.

[organizedchaos]

^^You have to determine what interests you. Like is it networking, web apps, software apps, embedded, etc. Once you know, you can research about what's the best language/software to learn in that field and focus on learning it. :)

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Aww thanks guys for your adives .
Im sort of in for it for the fun and to make some good programs to. fun at first then get good at it in the end i guess thats how it goes for most :)
Id like to be able to make a chhat client for yahoo and one of my other idea projects is to one day make my own chat server .. so making software apps would be my game i guess .
My brother is a RAD programmer but he says he only knows VB6 ,he was very good in his day at making chat clients ,infact he can make anything lol
Id like to be like that but im thinking that it might be best for me to start with VB.Net /VB9 coz thats more up to date with the times ?? Or does it really matter ??
I think once i know witch one to learn for making software apps then im on my way coz i guess i can cover most of the fields with the main programming lanuage like VB ???

Again thanks for your imput my friends :)

[ReignInChaos]

No Problem.

[organizedchaos]

^^Yeah I think you should go with your gut and start with VB.NET/VB9. :) I started liking and understanding programming because of VB too.

[Turk4n]

I would recommend you start off with learning what is programming also, try to work with math-related thinking, programing is a branch of math. So best for you would be understand what programming is and then start with a language, which gives you an opportunity to understand what you're doing.
Simple languages to start off with.
Visual Basic(If your a windows user would be the simplest)
Python
Ruby
Java
C#
C++(Exception, you will have to first understand what programming is all about)

That's what I think, otherwise now people will disagree with me.

[--VIP--]

Thats very good advise thanks guys :)

For .Net programming what would i need to get going then ???

I got stuff like VBexpress and VB studio but i think thats all old stuff now for only VB6 ? im not sure lol
But to use more up to date development software what els is out there i wonder ??

Im thinking what i will do is start by trying to get the right stuff and then get some old source codes for chat clients and have a play ..

:)

[TcM]

You can surely make such project with VB, but do you think that VB is worthy?

For .Net programming you will need Visual Studio, there are Express editions which are a little limited but should get you started for good.

[Turk4n]

__D3STROY3RZ__ said:

Thats very good advise thanks guys :)

For .Net programming what would i need to get going then ???

I got stuff like VBexpress and VB studio but i think thats all old stuff now for only VB6 ? im not sure lol
But to use more up to date development software what els is out there i wonder ??

Im thinking what i will do is start by trying to get the right stuff and then get some old source codes for chat clients and have a play ..

:)

Well get an IDE and start off easy with Data Types and simple operations?
Advance later with fairly bigger programs, lastly try to get a grip of what you did in past, afterwards feel happy with your new programming knowledge...
Do it properly, and don't waste time for something else if you must. Use spare time well if you want to learn one thing or two with programming :)

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Tanks guys yeah i see alot of programs made in VB6 and not many in .Net so maybe VB6 is still worth learning first coz that will be easyer then .Net so they say :)
.Net must be very new still and im guessing once ive learnt VB6 i could make just about aything ??? But yes start small first :)
Ive just installed VB studio 6.0 on my pc and ill grab a few source codes and have a play see how well i get it all :)

hehe thanks again for your cool advise guys :)

[chili5]

Turk4n said:

C++(Exception, you will have to first understand what programming is all about)

That is non-sense. You don't have to know what programming is all about to start learning C++.

As for VB6, I would skip that. It is a really old language and a bit of a pain at times. VB6 did some things which doesn't really make much sense (like how it handles functions).

Example in VB6:

Public Function mult(ByVal x As Integer, ByVal y As Integer) As Integer

mult = x * y ' returns x * y to the caller

End Function

VB.NET:

Public Function mult(ByVal x As Integer, ByVal y As Integer) As Integer

Return x * y 

End Function

It just seems more obvious as to what the VB.NET code is doing and the VB6 code is more confusing. :-s

Also .NET languages are completely object oriented which will make learning languages like Java and C++ a whole lot easier. :)