Posted 16 April 2009 - 05:49 PM
This has been a debate, just let me express my kiddy-thinking.
I have not yet experience the real world, but i think even at my age, 17, has my own feeling.
everyone is respect, and I shall express my own belief here.
my history teacher, a couple weeks ago said "the Europeans are a bunch of socialist"
i don't like the way he said it. is it true? in a way, yes. Europe is quite different from USA, just look at the currency, it is almost unified in the continent.
the history of Europe also impact the way people look at the European.
is it capitalism? yes, of course, there is capitalism in Europe!!
my point is, how can you really tell what is socialism and not?
people praise how beautiful the USA was, and now Obama is turning the nation to socilism.
I strongly disagree. I am sorry.
First of all, let's look at the Social Security Fund. Isn't that similar to what a socialism really is? People support each other.
Medicare, what is it? HELPING THE POOR, HELPING THE ELDERLY.
you can tell me a bunch of fancy definitions on socialism, but let me tell you the truth, NO.
As a society getting bigger and bigger, getting more complicated, we need people to support each other. We need people, everyone to take at least some responsibility.
We are a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN nation. We vote for people to run the government, it's the govern of consent, from the people. It's representative democracy. In the past, the ancestors of Americans lived almost independently until urbanization and technology improved.
If socialism is about NO CLASSES, EVERYONE SHARE just a level below the "ideal communism", then how would you justify what Americans had done in the past century with all these federal aids, fund?
I mean, let's stop whining about this. We are not going to be socialism. Stop the political accusation, stop playing the games. People make all kinds of story just to make "yellow journalism". They make money out of this. Bull-SHxT.
Didn't Bush use to say "i want everyone able to own a house, a car, a good living?"
Hey, this is socialism. Even a "royal" republican administration tried to promote the AMERICAN DREAM.
Stop the bulk ** here you politics people. Obama is doing what is necessary, there are ways to improve the entire PACKAGE. I don't like the PORK part at all. Waste money on pork-project. What is that all about?
If people are so concerned about the economy, why not face the truth that the job is difficult. People in these position, work almost 24/7, hundreds of pages and graphs and data and meeting.
Stop being some 3-years old wants mama to do this, and do that.
Everyone has the idea about socialism. Stop with the political terms here.
Educators always say "education for everyone, college for everyone, medicare for everyone". This is the real socialism. But what? Is this a want or need? BOTH. BOTH NEED AND WANT in the economy, society and individual
Guys, you see what I am trying to say here? THERE IS NO SOCIALISM IN ANYWHERE, BUT WE ARE SOCIALISTS OURSELVES, because this is 2009. This is not 1930, not 1940, not 1950, not 1970.