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[munna]

hey,

I would need your guys input on my selection of IT/CS program at undergraduate level in Australia.

I would like to know how is the future looking for people with a IT or CS graduates in general?
Is it true that IT is becoming more important because of the automation thing and that IT people generally have more hands on skills and knowing the business side as well? Whereas computer science is very specifiv to only computers?


I was considering a "computing&data analytics major" from the link below, leading into data mining and knowledge discovery., it will have some JAVA and C++ subject with data structures.

below is a description of computing &data analytics major with subjects...

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This major integrates the mathematical and information technology foundations for developing and applying business analytics systems and is concerned with technology services. Computer and data analytics is an emerging and rapidly expanding area where mathematics and statistical methods interact with powerful information technologies to improve the flow of massive amounts of data for a business. Students learn mathematical analytics methods, contemporary statistical data mining and computational methods.

Completion requirements
35101 Introduction to Linear Dynamical Systems 6cp
35151 Introduction to Statistics 6cp
31251 Data Structures and Algorithms 6cp
31244 Applications Programming 6cp
31250 Data Mining and Knowledge Discovery 6cp
Select 18 credit points from the following options: 18cp
31284 Web Services Development 6cp
31253 Database Programming 6cp
31259 Intelligent Agents in Java 6cp
31256 Image Processing and Pattern Recognition 6cp
31243 Analytics Project 6cp
31000 eBusiness Trading 6cp
Total 48cp


I also have uploaded subject outlines for some of the subjects that are in my major, thought that maybe it would make things easier for you guys to judge based on the contents of some subjects.


Would appreciate if you guys could be honest.

Ps: Since I am not allowed to post links , I will paste it here.

Computing and Data Analytics major

Year 1

Autumn semester

31265 Communication for IT Professionals 6cp
31266 Introduction to Information Systems 6cp
31267 Programming Fundamentals 6cp
31268 Web Systems 6cp

Spring semester

31269 Business Requirements Modelling 6cp
31270 Networking Essentials 6cp
31244 Applications Programming 6cp
Select 6 credit points of electives 6cp

Year 2

Autumn semester

31271 Database Fundamentals 6cp
31251 Data Structures and Algorithms 6cp
35101 Introduction to Linear Dynamical Systems 6cp
Select 6 credit points of electives 6cp

Spring semester

31250 Data Mining and Knowledge Discovery 6cp
35151 Introduction to Statistics 6cp
Select 12 credit points of electives 12cp

Year 3

Autumn semester

31272 Project Management and the Professional 6cp
Select one subject from the following: 6cp
31284 Web Services Development 6cp
31253 Database Programming 6cp
31259 Intelligent Agents in Java 6cp
31256 Image Processing and Pattern Recognition 6cp
31243 Analytics Project 6cp
Select 12 credit points of electives 12cp

Spring semester

Select two subjects from the following: 12cp
31284 Web Services Development 6cp
31253 Database Programming 6cp
31259 Intelligent Agents in Java 6cp
31256 Image Processing and Pattern Recognition 6cp
31243 Analytics Project 6cp
Select 12 credit points of electives 12cp

Thank you

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[WingedPanther]

Ultimately, start with the answer to this question:
Do you prefer to sit at a desk and code all day, or move around a lot?

[munna]

WingedPanther said:

Ultimately, start with the answer to this question:
Do you prefer to sit at a desk and code all day, or move around a lot?

Well,I would not mind coding all day(would do that for a little period of my career) however I prefer to move around as I want become manager from business analyst.

Too be honest, I am very very interested in data mining because it fits very good with my finance major. Data mining also seems like a field that will grow very fast therefore job opportunities should be good as well.

here is a little quote about the analytics project

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Data mining and knowledge discovery is the kernel of contemporary computer analytics and intelligence. The process consists of several iterative steps, including data pre-processing and transformation, the actual data mining and pattern discovery steps, and putting discovered information and knowledge into action. This subject is focused on the practical implementation of this process to large data sets from different areas of human endeavour. It provides students with exposure to real-world analytics scenarios, and with expertise and experience in the application of the data mining techniques and in professional communication of analytics results.

[WingedPanther]

One of the biggest mistakes people make is to try to get a job that will "make money" as opposed to a job that "will be fun". I'm a programmer because I enjoy it, not because of the money. Markets change. After four years of college, the market can be completely different, and data mining, for example, might be completely automated. Find something you like.

[qin02]

mate, I am afraid I might have gotten back to this thread a bit too late.

first of all, ur going to the wrong university, if IT/CS is what you want to major in, go to either USYD,Macquaire, UNSW and ANU. Out of these universities UNSW have been ranked 14 or 16th in the world in terms of their cse/engineering department.

secondly if you wish to do it/cs it is very important to know the difference between information technology and computer science (assuming it is cs= computer science and not computer systems). I noticed you may have use the terms alternatively, however you have citied that IT is becoming more important due to automation. I am assuming that by automation, you are actually refering to industry type automations.

firstly IT is not CS there is a difference unfortunately due to marketers and freaking HR personnel the terms have been mixed and used in conjunction. Information technology refers to the infrastructure and networking software to use in conjunction with a computer system. Computer science refers to the science and engineering behind the concepts and develop these concepts in to production into an IT/Computer system.

Thus Automation will be related to computer science and not IT.

Now If your into computers due to data mining i suggest you do more subjects that focus more on data structures, databases, and data mining courses and not be hung over other types of subjects. The quickest way to becoming a manager is doing project management in computers. However as to you comment about computer literiates have more view into business side is not always true. There have been research to show to opposite, IT and computer science professionals have a tentansy to ignore business needs and focus on non business goals. However if your a tech savvy manager with business knowledge and is willing to align your IT strategy with business goals that is a huge bonus in obtinaing a future IT management job. Although Communication is also key.

sorry to rant on just at work haven't had a chance to check spelling and grammar. but i thought I clear up the miss conception of IT and computer science.

By the way if you wish to get into automation, electronics and embeded systems you will wish to do subjects with more programmming, electronics, operating systems, embedded systems and so on, these are the areas in which in the silicon industry in australia are missing resources and not the IT industry.

[Turk4n]

I don't enjoy programming since I suck at it 'badly'.So I am going to become a CE...

[qin02]

for me that degree that your doing is tailored more towards information systems and lacks a fundamental computer science element to it.

for example there is a lack of math subjects. how you going to work out image manipulation and image processing without a correct bases of 3D coordinate geometry is beyond me.

there is also lacking in physics electives, and other science electives. these subjects are important as it forms the bases of your fundamental understanding from with all other programs are built upon it.

The course really need a discrete mathematics course built into it to help you analyse the different logics and boolean algebra that will be thrown ur way not only in databases but a few of the other programming subjects as well.

[tossy]

Frankly telling I enjoy programming ....as I know I has lot of opportunities to learn and gain knowledge and job.