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To me, random is a set of events that happen out of something pre-defined. You thoughts? This is based off of a chat in another thread.

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yeah , i was waiting for this :D
i dont think random exists
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Well I don't believe anything is truly random. However random meaning something that happens that is completely out of context of the current situation.

Example:

People are playing tennis and a piano falls out of the sky.

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okay.
what makes it look random is because you concentrate at the people who are playing tennins but its not random to the people who threw the piano
yo homie i heard you like one-line codes so i put a one line code that evals a decrypted one line code that prints "i love one line codes"
eval(base64_decode("cHJpbnQgJ2kgbG92ZSBvbmUtbGluZSBjb2Rlcyc7"));
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amrosama said:

okay.
what makes it look random is because you concentrate at the people who are playing tennins but its not random to the people who threw the piano

Exactly. And a piano cant appear from anywhere, so random, is still based from normality, to someone.

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Randomness is characterized by a set of potential outcomes for a given situation (such as rolling dice) where it is not possible to predict with certainty which potential outcome will actually occur.
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thats exactly what i meant :)
yo homie i heard you like one-line codes so i put a one line code that evals a decrypted one line code that prints "i love one line codes"
eval(base64_decode("cHJpbnQgJ2kgbG92ZSBvbmUtbGluZSBjb2Rlcyc7"));
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WingedPanther said:

Randomness is characterized by a set of potential outcomes for a given situation (such as rolling dice) where it is not possible to predict with certainty which potential outcome will actually occur.

There are still ways on predicting the probability of hitting a number.

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If you take WPs definition then just about anything a human does is random. As I stated in the other thread, I don't think our paths are set and I think we can change anything at anytime.

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WingedPanther said:

Randomness is characterized by a set of potential outcomes for a given situation (such as rolling dice) where it is not possible to predict with certainty which potential outcome will actually occur.

given the angel that the dice hit the surface, which side, power,.....etc wont make a random event
yo homie i heard you like one-line codes so i put a one line code that evals a decrypted one line code that prints "i love one line codes"
eval(base64_decode("cHJpbnQgJ2kgbG92ZSBvbmUtbGluZSBjb2Rlcyc7"));
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nicckk said:

There are still ways on predicting the probability of hitting a number.

SmallRoller -- A Dice Roller/Probability Calculator
I didn't say it couldn't be quantified, just that the exact result couldn't be known.

amrosama said:

given the angel that the dice hit the surface, which side, power,.....etc wont make a random event
I had a friend in high school who could roll 3d6 and consistently roll high or low as desired.
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so you too dont think theres no random in real world?
yo homie i heard you like one-line codes so i put a one line code that evals a decrypted one line code that prints "i love one line codes"
eval(base64_decode("cHJpbnQgJ2kgbG92ZSBvbmUtbGluZSBjb2Rlcyc7"));
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