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I really want to start being able to make websites
so im thinking about looking into html and php, anyone
have any suggestions on what i should start learning first
and what they code in?
And also if anyone knows of any good online beginners guide that
would be cool ;]
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HTML practically has to be the first thing you learn. To give a crude outline, HTML defines everything you see, the rest provides functions to modify what the HTML originally defined.

An example might be that a text box and a button are defined in HTML then when the button is clicked a PHP function is called to handle whatever is in the text box.

Therefore learn HTML then once you feel competent in making dumb web pages you can look at combining forms with JS and PHP.

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You may want to look into CSS as well. It makes it easier to handle the design/layout of your website. The syntax is very different from HTML's, but it's easy to learn.

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alright ill do my best :)
thx!
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Well I would suggest you to stick to an HTMl version (example 4.01) and work on it, follow all it's rules and everything.. start with simple text, then add formatting like header color etc.. then start inserting images, afterwards start using tables and CSS.. can make a pretty cool website of 4+ pages PLUS layout using images etc..in 5 minutes using only notepad.

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I"m agreeing with every one esle who's posted. HTML first.
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It's also worth noting that an HTML environment is trivial to set up. The fact that you posted here proves you already have a working interpreter. PHP is quite heavyweight and requires you to set up a web server practically.

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Along with HTML, you will need CSS and JavaScript (don't use VBscript, as that only runs in IE). Once you can create static pages with those technologies, then you will want to add in PHP to make pages more dynamic. Depending on the task, you may also need to learn SQL so you can have the PHP code interact with a database.
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Well with JavaScript you will be already experimenting with dynamic pages, but with PHP you will get the real use of them.

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What has JavaScript dynamic? You mean dynamic as for example displaying the time that changes every time you reload the page.. or something similar?

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yea I think prolly something like that. no, there isn't as much flexability and changability with JS as you do with PHP but you have more then with just straight HTML
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JS allows you to fiddle with the DOM of the HMTL page. A plain HTML file is static, JS allows you to modify it on the fly. JS is better at this than PHP but is lacking in other areas.