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Old 09-09-2008, 12:44 AM
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A start, thanks Aereshaa.

Only thing is that this package will be on a CD... will this still be able to modify the CD itself without use of any third-party burning software?

Also, I would assume that the privileges of the user would be the ones that are available to the program I write, no? The path shouldn't be a problem.
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Dude it's a program it doesn't matter what media it's stored on.
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You could use a batch file to first launch your video and then a program overwriting it, is that right? So what you need is the overwriting part?
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Dude it's a program it doesn't matter what media it's stored on.
My understanding is modifying information on CDs is what programs like Nero are designed to do, and that a few lines of code aren't likely to be sophisticated enough to run through the steps.

Feel free to prove me wrong if you want; if you can design a simple program that will delete all the data that I burn on to a CD-RW (I won't encrypt it or anything unorthodox), I will then understand differently.


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You could use a batch file to first launch your video and then a program overwriting it, is that right? So what you need is the overwriting part?
Yes and correct.

The batch file itself should be pretty simple to script; all I'm looking for it to do is command the video file to run (easy), wait a bit (easy), and then run the corruption/deletion of video file bit (easy). The part where I'm unsure on what to do is where I actually have to design something that would reliably do the "corruption/deletion of video file" bit on the information stored on the CD (in this case, the video file).

At the moment, I'm looking into how to set the CD to autoplay while also avoiding requiring prompt from the user and instead just getting the batch file to run right off the .bat (couldn't help myself).

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Hmm now that I think about it, this actually might be more complicated than I anticipated. I didn't think about being a CD. You're right, let me do some research.
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Yes, it's the key to the problem... which is why I am not sure if a higher-level language like python can do what I need, or even if this is entirely possible.

Doesn't mean I'm not going to look around and give it a shot anyways.
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Make sure to let us know if you figure out how to do it
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Have you considered other media? I know my program works on a flash drive, tried it just now. Or you could use a floppy if you're old-fashioned.
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You're right, let me do some research.
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Default Re: Trying to create some Spy Code

Aereshaa: The thing is, I already know it would work for sure on a flash drive (as you can readily confirm) and I believe it would work on a floppy, but I was wondering if it were possible via a CD. A flash drive isn't exactly the most expendable of mediums, and a floppy drive isn't necessarily standard anymore.

However, in the end, a flash drive *would* work as a secondary choice, but then it's as if I were running it off the local drive anyways; I was hoping to find some cheeky way to disable the CD-ROM entirely, make the CD invisible, or corrupt the CD. On the flash drive, there might be a few problems with privileges/anti-virus software, but other than that I don't see any real obstacles/challenges. I'm beginning to think that approaching the registry or the drivers for the CD-ROM would be a better/more practical idea. I think that way would be less simple than making the CD unreadable/inaccessible, but likely a little bit more intuitive.

In the end, I'm not looking for anything irreversibly malicious (I'm testing it on my computer first), just something that would have the end result of a user only being able to run the video-file once. I know the hapless victim well, so I will just reverse it once I manage to pull off the prank...

Marwex: And of course, if I get it going, I will put together a tutorial outlining what I did and how it worked. I'm sure it is simple, but that doesn't mean it's easy. However, that might be because it's not actually possible and I just don't know it yet.

Xav: Methodz change of heart surprised me too... it must be the drugs That being said, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious as to what he's going to whip up...
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