Contest: C# vs. Java vs. Visual Basic

[JavaGuy147]

Originally Posted by xXHalfSliceXx

Java always seems to work when you get it from a good source... But hey, not everyone can come out with the most stable programs like Windows Vista, that is compatible with everything! :-P

*i almost forgot about this contest*

Is that windows vista thing a joke? because windows sucks lol. U all havta agree.

[Void]

Originally Posted by JavaGuy147

I 100% agree with the VB statement

I also have to agree.

[FlyByWire128]

I find java to be really geared towards students (probably why they start you programming with Java). The compliler will pretty much catch most of your stupid mistakes and prevent you from doing something dangerous/stupid to your computer... after all, it is a virtual machine...

[Crane]

Originally Posted by FlyByWire128

I find java to be really geared towards students (probably why they start you programming with Java). The compliler will pretty much catch most of your stupid mistakes and prevent you from doing something dangerous/stupid to your computer... after all, it is a virtual machine...

I see a lot of "Java" classes and not so many C++ or C# classes. I also still see a lot of cobol/fortran classes. Why??

[icepack]

so far for my degree i've taken just as many java classes as i have c/c++

[John]

Originally Posted by icepack

so far for my degree i've taken just as many java classes as i have c/c++

I've yet to take a C++ course in college but I am looking forward to it. I'm currently in my second Java class

[FlyByWire128]

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

I've yet to take a C++ course in college but I am looking forward to it. I'm currently in my second Java class

Yea, most of our classes are in Java here too. Actually, there are a lot of classes that use C/C++, but they don't particularly teach those languages. You're just supposed to use those languages for whatever the programming is necessary, but they don't teach us the language.

[R-G]

Well, FlyByWire128. I think that Java is not a nice language. I don't say that I basicaly hate, high level programming languages, but Java is really slow. C\C++ is a little bit better (it depends for the compiler).

You can't really write extreme fast binary code in Java.

[FlyByWire128]

Originally Posted by R-G

Well, FlyByWire128. I think that Java is not a nice language. I don't say that I basicaly hate, high level programming languages, but Java is really slow. C\C++ is a little bit better (it depends for the compiler).

You can't really write extreme fast binary code in Java.

I agree, if speed is what you're looking for, Java (or any other high level language) is probably not what you're looking for. I think for the most part, however, that Java is a nice language to learn on, when speed is not a requirement. Asking someone who has never programmed before to start writing assembly code would probably turn a whole lot of people off from programming.

[R-G]

Originally Posted by FlyByWire128

Asking someone who has never programmed before to start writing assembly code would probably turn a whole lot of people off from programming.

Maybe, you're right. I think that Assembly is not a bad way to learn programming. How ever, I know a lot of people that started to write algorithms in Assembly before going to other high level languages. Its not just the speed of the binary code, but the 'programming power' too.

Java could be a fast language if the compilers would compile the Java code in really nice ASM code (in the step of, 'Assembling ASM code to Object code, and Object code to executable code for the OS' is no problem).

Maybe I will make a project in Artificial Compiler Intelligences.
The compiler will translate high level languages with intelligence in ASM code. So, basicaly if the AI can translate the high lavel language in really nice pure ASM code, than the executable file (wrote in C\C++ for example), could really mess with the originaly Assembly algorithms. So the binary would be equal fast and it would probably take less time to write a complex algorithm in C\C++ than in pure Assembly (I guess, this would be the first such compiler in the wild).

Ofcourse, would the code be open source (maybe, GPL).